[AusNOG] Simon Hackett's presentation from Comms Day yesterday - NBN fibre on copper prices

Michael Andreas Schipp MSchipp at a10networks.com
Thu Jul 18 23:26:15 EST 2013


+1 to almost all of that.  But given the 50% take up for battery backup, this one I think will play like the following;

NBN Op "Would you like the battery backup, even though this will only backup you phone line?"
End-user "How much is that going to cost me?"
NBN op "Nothing, but are you going to use the PSTN port or just use VoIP from your RSP?"
End-user 'thinking...... something for nothing.... And what the hell is PSTN and VoIP or RSP?'
End-user "Yes, I will have the battery backup please"

Could of caused be wrong as I do not know if there is a charge for the UPS unit or not.


From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Thursday, 18 July 2013 10:50 PM
To: George Fong; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Simon Hackett's presentation from Comms Day yesterday - NBN fibre on copper prices

I just went and read the NBN corporate plan update:

http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/documents/nbn-co-corporate-plan-6-aug-2012.pdf

They have changed the assumption that each premise would incorporate a battery backup to only being required in an estimated 50% and it will be able to be nominated by end users:

======
The 2011-13 Corporate Plan assumed that NBN Co would be required to
provide Battery Backup to 100% of Fibre End-Users connections. Following consultation
with the Shareholder Ministers, the 2012-15 Corporate Plan assumes that End-Users will be
able to nominate whether or not they want NBN Co to provide Battery Backup. Priority
Assistance households will be provided with a Battery Backup. It is now assumed that 50%
of Fibre End-Users will elect not to have Battery Backup, with a consequent reduction in
Capital Expenditure.
======

It would also seem that their rollout plan has been changed from "demand drop" to "build drop" which I believe means they will drop the fibre to each premises as they build it and then if/when the customer wants an NBN service then hook up the ONT.

I do like the idea proposed by Simon that in a lot of the cases the NBN gear wouldn't be required and could be replaced by just the RSP router. This would probably be a similar 50% of premises that would opt to not have the battery backup that may also choose not to have an NBN device at all. I suggest we call this "naked NBN" ;)

I agree with the issue of the equipment being custom built just for NBN, that is massive vendor dependence there.

Right now a PSTN port is probably still a requirement, but over time it will cease to be required. A lot of people under the age of say perhaps 40  (*) would be quite happy without a PSTN port and a lot of people I know that fit this category don't have a PSTN line or have one purely for the purpose of getting DSL delivered. The number of people who fit in this category is going to increase over time such that by 2040 it may be an overwhelming majority see no need for a PSTN port. If they had the naked NBN option, this would fit for all those people who want "just" an Internet connection.

regards,
Tony.

(*) - Apologies if the number of years you have been occupying this planet falls over or under the arbitrary value I have picked. It's not meant to slight anyone, just a rough guess based on people I know, their habits and what they are "technically" capable of doing.


________________________________
From: George Fong <george at lateralplains.com<mailto:george at lateralplains.com>>
To: "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>
Sent: Thursday, 18 July 2013 10:45 AM
Subject: [AusNOG] Simon Hackett's presentation from Comms Day yesterday - NBN fibre on copper prices


Hi All,



If you haven't already seen it, here's a link to Simon's thought

provoking and challenging presentation at Comms Day. Is NBNCo doing it

too hard, too complex and too expensive?



http://simonhackett.com/2013/07/17/nbn-fibre-on-a-copper-budget/



Cheers

g.
--

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.ausnog.net/pipermail/ausnog/attachments/20130718/5fcb25cf/attachment.html>


More information about the AusNOG mailing list