[AusNOG] Simon Hackett's presentation from Comms Day yesterday - NBN fibre on copper prices

Jake Anderson yahoo at vapourforge.com
Thu Jul 18 11:41:07 EST 2013


I don't really see it being a big problem.
If you want a single channel use RSP equipment for cheaps.
If you are going multiple then you can either use NBNco's current box 
and supply your own multiple routers both of which would be at your expense.
Or get a router that's smart enough to handle multiple services.

I do hear where you are coming from with lock in, but that problem 
should be solvable with software, IE something akin to rapid churn, at 
time X RSP-1 is cut off and RSP-2 is turned on for your service.
RSP-2 will then call you (or not) to walk you through the setup.


On 18/07/13 11:28, Andrew Jones wrote:
> Good presentation, and while my first reaction was to agree with 
> Simon, the issue I see with this is that unless each dwelling is able 
> to have multiple strands of fibre delivered, the first RSP to sell a 
> service has a monopoly on the residence's connections. With the 
> current NBN design, a second (or third) RSP can use another of the 
> ports. On the current system with services delivered primarily over 
> phone lines, we can have second provider on a separate line. I think 
> that only offering a single GPON handoff to each premises could reduce 
> competition and increase provider lock-in.
>
>
> On 18.07.2013 11:15, Greg McLennan wrote:
>> +1 Watch the 20 video.
>>  -------
>>  On 18/07/2013 11:12 AM, Michael Andreas Schipp wrote:
>>
>>> Recommend you spend the 20 min to listen - good stuff.
>>>
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>>> yesterday - NBN fibre on copper prices
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>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> If you haven't already seen it, here's a link to Simon's thought
>>>
>>> provoking and challenging presentation at Comms Day. Is NBNCo doing it
>>>
>>> too hard, too complex and too expensive?
>>>
>>> http://simonhackett.com/2013/07/17/nbn-fibre-on-a-copper-budget/ [1]
>>>
>>> Cheers
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