[AusNOG] /20 Available

Jacob Gardiner jacob at jacobgardiner.com
Mon Jan 21 16:36:49 EST 2013


Just because you add a sanity check to a situation doesn't mean that it has
to be a terrible one.

Sure, IPv6 is the end goal, but even a completely dual-stacked ISP needs
more ipv4 as their customers continue to visit ipv4-only websites.

How far can a RIR go to prove a justification? Probably just as far as
another organisation is willing to Justify that they need the IP addresses.
I know that if my clients needed me to go through a justification process
so that I can keep selling services to them, I'd do it - even if it was a
tedious one.

Stat decs are not going to be relevant in this case, it's not a legal case.




On 21 January 2013 15:53, Luke Iggleden <luke+ausnog at sisgroup.com.au> wrote:

> On 21/01/13 3:45 PM, Jacob Gardiner wrote:
>
>> Although I know there's always going to be loopholes when there's
>> situations where companies start acquiring companies (Like what
>> Microsoft did) in order to acquire assets, including IP resources, I
>> think the process of buying and selling should probably be governed by
>> the regional internet registry. Streamline the process as much
>> as possible but properly evaluate the requirement for acquiring the IP
>> addresses and make sure the motive isn't to simply buy and sell.
>>
>> Would it be tedious? Yes.
>> Is it required? I think so, yes.
>>
>> IPv4 is going to be a sheetfight over the next few years unless trade is
>> regulated. Those of us who will legitimately need more address space are
>> doomed whilst these "brokers" who actually provide no value to what we
>> do collect a cheque on the way through.
>>
>> If company X no longer requires the resources, surely their
>> 'justification' for the allocation is no longer valid.
>>
>>  If you regulate more, you're changing what companies / people will
> report as justification. How far can a RIR go to prove that a justification
> is justified?
>
> APNIC currently has to approve transfers, isn't that regulated enough?
> What could change with this process?
>
> More justification? Stat Decs? Court Orders? (None of this really would
> happen? -nor should it)
>
> I can't see how to improve it.
>
> Wait I can.. (USE IPV6!!)
>
>
>
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