[AusNOG] News: Telstra to clamp down on peer-to-peer

Joshua D'Alton joshua at railgun.com.au
Tue Feb 5 22:02:27 EST 2013


And not to mention P2P torrent traffic is only about 10% of illegal
traffic, compared to the 30%+ of file locker and 60%+ of usenet.

On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Jeffrey Sims <jeffy at tehintartubes.net>wrote:

> Not to mention, P2P is used for file delivery for games like WoW, League
> of Legends etc.
>
> So by stopping the downloaders, you're stopping the gamers too!
>
> Telstra's big book of "101 ways to piss off its customer base (but really
> they have no choice but to be with Telstra until NBN comes out)"
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Chris Ricks <chris.ricks at securepay.com.au>wrote:
>
>>  They already do clamp down on peer-to-peer by counting uploads, surely?
>>
>>
>> On 05/02/13 16:59, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
>>
>> From the SMH @
>> http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/telstra-to-clamp-down-on-peertopeer-20130205-2dvus.html
>>
>>  ---
>>
>>  Telstra is planning to slow the speed at which its customers download
>> content through peer-to-peer (P2P) networks<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer-to-peer> in
>> peak periods as part of a trial.
>>
>> P2P networks are commonly used to download pirated material such as
>> movies, music and video games.
>>
>>
>>  Telstra confirmed the move in a statement after a source contacted
>> Fairfax Media, publisher of this article, to say the telco planned to
>> introduce throttling as a "trial" that was likely to become permanent and
>> which required users to opt out if they didn't want to take part in it.
>>
>>
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>>
>> The trial could begin as soon as this week, the source added.
>>
>>
>>  The Telstra statement said it would be conducting a "limited trial of a
>> range of technical options for better managing broadband internet
>> performance for our customers during peak periods".
>>
>>
>>  One option being looked at was the shaping of specific services,
>> including some peer-to-peer services, in certain circumstances and at
>> certain times. The telco could shape such services using deep packet
>> inspection <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_packet_inspection> (DPI)
>> technology, which can identify the types of network traffic flowing through
>> a network and prioritise it accordingly.
>>
>>
>>  "Once the trial is complete we will consider the results as part of our
>> future network planning and product development activities," the company
>> said.
>>
>>
>>  "The trial does not involve any monitoring or tracking of the sites
>> customers visit and the findings we gather, including their feedback, are
>> being collected in accordance with our privacy statement," Telstra said.
>>
>>
>>  Critics of ISPs that interfere with P2P say it has many uses that
>> aren't illegal, such as downloading large files, and that it shouldn't be
>> interfered with. But most acknowledge it is used for sharing
>> copyright-protected material
>>
>>
>>  Telstra's plan to shape peer-to-peer network traffic was first mooted
>> by the industry publication *RCR Wireless* in May 2011, when Telstra
>> executive director Michael Lawrey threatened in a speech<http://www.rcrwireless.com/unplugged/index.php/20110523/carriers/9137/telstra-proudly-declares-intent-to-cut-off-bandwidth-hogs/> in
>> Dublin to cut off "downloaders of illegal content", whom he reportedly
>> blamed for network congestion.
>>
>>
>>  The *RCR Wireless* article no longer appears online but Mr Lawrey's
>> quotes remain on the Australian technology news website *iTnews*, which
>> repeated them<http://www.itnews.com.au/News/258515,telstra-aims-throttling-at-its-hungriest-customers.aspx>
>> .
>>
>> *RCR Wireless* quoted Mr Lawrey as saying Telstra would also take action
>> against customers believed to be abusing the carrier's fair-use policies.
>>
>>
>>  "We probably haven't even used our fair use small print yet. But we
>> will," Mr Lawrey reportedly said.
>>
>>
>>  He was also reported to have said that if the carrier's proposed system
>> "cut out 80 per cent of the non-value adding traffic – good".
>>
>>
>>  According to the *RCR Wireless* article, about 80 per cent of Telstra's
>> data was chewed up by high bandwidth users.
>>
>>
>>  "I'd rather not have those 80 per cent as customers. I'd rather someone
>> else had them as customers," Mr Lawrey reportedly said.
>>
>>
>>  He did not say whether he was talking about fixed-line, smartphone
>> customers or both.
>>
>>
>>  Exetel, a smaller ISP than Telstra, used to throttle<http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/exetel_faq_prioritize>,
>> or "deprioritise", peer-to-peer traffic during peak periods. Its terms and
>> conditions say it can still do so but a staff member last year said on
>> its forum that it did not shape<https://forum.exetel.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=284&t=39103> "any
>> type of traffic".
>>
>>
>>  Illegal downloading via BitTorrent networks has been in slight decline
>> for some time<http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/game-of-thrones-crowned-king-of-downloads-20121224-2buay.html>,
>> though reports suggest there was a small rise in 2012. In part that would
>> be fuelled by faster internet services worldwide and a migration away from
>> traditional television in which some consumers now exclusively watch TV
>> content via the internet.
>>
>>
>> Read more:
>> http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/telstra-to-clamp-down-on-peertopeer-20130205-2dvus.html#ixzz2K09ebWjy
>>
>>
>>  ---
>>
>> ...Skeeve
>>
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>>
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