[AusNOG] ZyXEL DSLAMs

Skeeve Stevens skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com
Wed Dec 18 22:28:46 EST 2013


Excellent advice mate.. thanks.


...Skeeve

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On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Bill Walker <bill at wjw.co.nz> wrote:

> I used Zyxel DSL based products for 8 years (2000-2008), I've deployed
> everything from their 2 box SHDSL point to point solution, to their 48 port
> xDSL DSLAM's. All in all I found the gear to be good and stable. I have had
> firmware issues, but they have been solved quickly. In the early days our
> office was next to theirs in Reading UK so we used to get a few beta boxes
> to test too.
>
> The biggest install I've done in APAC was at Cardrona Ski Field for the
> tyre testing guys, 24 port VDSL/SHDSL pizza box, running a mix of 2-wire
> VDSL and 4-wire bonded SHDSL. Was running there for 5 years without a
> hitch. When it changed hands they spent the extra money and replaced the
> lot with fibre.
>
> The key to using their gear, IMO is being able to get a decent support
> contact at Zyxel. Not sure how easy that would be here and I've lost touch
> with the UK guys.
>
> On 2013-12-12 16:50, Guy Ellis wrote:
>
>> What we found if we ran two ports at the same time each one drops to
>> around 15Mbps!
>> Never did try 4.
>>
>> On 12/12/2013 1:54 PM, Peter Blackford wrote:
>>
>> This is with the AAM1212-51 (ADSL 2+ Annex M) and a Linksys WAG120N
>>
>> On 12 December 2013 13:48, Skeeve Stevens <skeeve+ausnog@
>> eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
>>
>> Is this the ADSL or VDSL ones?  Just confirming?
>>
>> If it is the VDSL ones... what CPE's was it tested with.
>>
>> If it was the ADSL ones... that TP isn't too bad is it?
>>
>> ...Skeeve
>>
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>>
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>> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Peter Blackford <peter at onemetric.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> 1) Throughput was the problem we had with the ADSL2+ Zyxel - it was
>> maxing out at around 15Mbps / port.
>>
>> This is from a pizza box Zyxel DSLAM
>>
>> Just be aware that lead time is about 6 weeks between ordering and
>> delivery.
>>
>> On 12 December 2013 12:57, Guy Ellis <guy at traverse.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Skeeve,
>>
>> 1) Throughput was the problem we had with the ADSL2+ Zyxel - it was
>> maxing out at around 15Mbps / port.
>>
>> 2) AUSTRALIA/NEW ZEALAND—MELBOURNE
>> +61 3 9658 0500 [11]
>> +61 3 9658 0599 [12] fax
>> sales.australia at adtran.com
>> 3) We are ETSI and don't forget it - our cars run on petrol not gasoline!
>>
>> 4) The Host model includes a management node and will run stand alone.
>> Client model needs an upstream Host for management.
>> Depending on your topology you may need both types.
>> I'm sure their friendly sales guy will help you ;-)
>>
>> Cheers,
>>  - Guy.
>>
>> On 12/12/2013 12:21 PM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
>>
>> Guy,
>>
>> I'd like to know more about why you think the ZyXEL's weren't good.
>>
>> Also, the Adtran's also look interesting.  Any contact to get some
>> pricing/info?
>>
>> Might be a stupid question.. but in AU and NZ are we ANSI or ETSI?
>>
>> Also not  sure what they mean by Host and Client models.
>>
>> ...Skeeve
>>
>> SKEEVE STEVENS - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>>
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>>
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>> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Guy Ellis <guy at traverse.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> Based on our ADSL2+ experience I wouldn't go near Zyxel with a barge pole.
>>
>> Instead take a look at the Adtran 1248V - they are not expensive and are
>> carrier class.
>> They even have a local engineer in Melbourne!
>>
>> On 12/12/2013 11:43 AM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
>>
>> Hey,
>>
>> Anyone have any experience with these:
>>
>> http://www.zyxel.com/au/en/products_services/ves1724_56.shtml?t=p [13]
>>
>> 48 port VDSL2 DSLAMs.
>>
>> If so, opinions welcome...  Costs would be interesting to know.
>>
>> Any sales contacts in AU or NZ would be welcome too.
>>
>> ...Skeeve
>>
>> SKEEVE STEVENS - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>>
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>>
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