[AusNOG] Juniper vs Cisco vs Brocade - what's best for BGP routing?

Skeeve Stevens skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com
Wed Dec 11 17:39:14 EST 2013


Rob,

Just a note.  If a reseller can't answer some basic technical questions,
they shouldn't be selling the product in the first place.


...Skeeve

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On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Robert Hudson <hudrob at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Andrew,
>
> My understanding is that the Brocade CES/CER options would meet your
> requirements as stated (including the budget).
>
> Let me know if you want that reseller contact - what they can't answer on
> a technical basis, they'll push up to the Brocade presales engineering team.
>
> Regards,
>
> Robert
>
>
> On 11 December 2013 17:30, Andrew White <admin at uberskilled.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> Wow, thanks for all the replies - both on and off list. There's some
>> fantastic ones here and some great information.
>>
>> To answer some of the questions:
>>
>> My budget is somewhere in the $5-15k range. I can go higher, but I'm not
>> super comfortable doing so unless there's a good ROI reason to do so.
>> Obviously bang for buck is important, as I'm not a huge business.
>>
>> In house support is a good point. I do have a CCNA and have a reasonable
>> network topology and interconnectivity understanding - I'd imagine anything
>> (as long as it has documentation) I can learn and support over time.
>>
>> Throughput is only about 150mbit bursing to 200mbit currently, but
>> expansion is definitely planned and future proofing is wanted.
>>
>> I'm not sure about picking how many interfaces I need. I guess a couple
>> for upstream, a couple for future upstreams, and maybe 4-6 for back into
>> the network (for future proofing, I have 2 internal core routers currently).
>>
>> There's been a few suggestions of a physical Linux box or Linux VM. What
>> would be the advantages/disadvantages of this compared to routing hardware?
>>
>> Thanks guys, I really appreciate the great responses!
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Andrew White <admin at uberskilled.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hey guys,
>>>
>>> I've recently set up my own AS and I'm looking at broadcasting my own
>>> BGP. I'm wanting to find some decent hardware at a reasonable price to do
>>> so.
>>>
>>> The same router will also run my servers (about 50 VMs/3 physical boxes)
>>> and have to deal with multiple upstream providers (two currently, but more
>>> to come at my DC).
>>>
>>> I also want something that can hold a big BGP routing table.
>>>
>>> When I was first getting into networking, Cisco was "the big thing". Now
>>> I look at the market and Junipers seem really common for the cheaper end of
>>> the market. I've seen Brocades too - I think they may be out of my price
>>> range, but I'm not sure if they're worth the money or if there's a huge
>>> benefit.
>>>
>>> I've been tossing up over a few Huawei models which are really, really
>>> cheap!
>>>
>>> I don't know a ton about the hardware side of things and I'm sure there
>>> are others on the list with a similar level of knowledge to me. I'm happy
>>> for any vendor contacts, and I'm sure replies on list would be appreciated
>>> for other people to learn about this too!
>>>
>>> Thanks guys!
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>
>>
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