[AusNOG] Transit provider recommendations
Joshua D'Alton
joshua at railgun.com.au
Fri Aug 16 21:31:14 EST 2013
If you do the maths subtracting originated prefixes (which you need to
expand out to equivalent /24s, as routes announced is /24s), then of
aforementioned people, Vocus is indeed advertising the most customer
routes,
actually got halfway through checking internode and such, doesn't actually
seem to add up doing it that way either. Oh well!
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Jared Hirst <
jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au> wrote:
> Well we buy over a gbit from Vocus, so I am SURE that makes up something?
>
> We are a small fish in the sea.... I can imagine how many other bigger
> players there are out there, and I reckon they don't buy from Telstra /
> Optus. So the routes = volume *may* be valid in this case?
>
> I am not 100% sure but It seems legit to me that they do run a pretty
> massive number 1or 2 network?!?!?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Jared Hirst
> Servers Australia Pty Ltd
> Phone: +61 2 8115 8888
> Direct: +61 2 8115 8801
>
> On 16 Aug 2013, at 9:13 pm, Tom Berryman <tom at connectivityit.com.au>
> wrote:
>
> Routes != volume (…..)
>
>
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>]
> *On Behalf Of *Jared Hirst
> *Sent:* Friday, 16 August 2013 8:54 PM
> *To:* Cameron Daniel
> *Cc:* <AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Transit provider recommendations
>
>
>
> According to he.net they have the most amount of routes in AU!
>
>
>
> http://bgp.he.net/country/AU
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Jared Hirst
>
> Servers Australia Pty Ltd
>
> Phone: +61 2 8115 8888
>
> Direct: +61 2 8115 8801
>
>
> On 16 Aug 2013, at 8:35 pm, Cameron Daniel <cdaniel at nurve.com.au> wrote:
>
> I'd be interested to know where you're getting this from. Vocus run a
> great transit network but I think second largest is a big call...
>
> On 2013-08-16 4:34 pm, Nathan Brookfield wrote:
>
> They are the second biggest AU providers of IP Transit after Telstra.
>
> Nathan Brookfield
>
> Chief Executive Officer
>
> Simtronic Technologies Pty Ltd
>
> http://www.simtronic.com.au [3]
>
> On 16/08/2013, at 15:40, "Joshua D'Alton" <joshua at railgun.com.au>
>
> wrote:
>
> Vocus is a fairly significant AU player, if you're looking for a
>
> complete alternate path for all your routes then you definitely are
>
> looking at Go4, most if not all others actually have Vocus in their
>
> upstreams too funnily enough.
>
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Andrew Yager <andrew at rwts.com.au>
>
> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Yep - preceisly. Vocus is great; rock solid, and very few issues. I
>
> can't say never - but they are responsive and quick to act. I
>
> considered the "vocus only" approach - because their product is
>
> great (read "give me a discount please") - but really we need to be
>
> confident that if an issue occurs that we have an alternate path to
>
> route the traffic. As people have suggested from a a business
>
> perspective, multiple provider routes are important, and really
>
> necessary in my mind for getting traffic around.
>
> Thanks for the many who have reached out and responded, still
>
> interested in thoughts. :)
>
> Andrew
>
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> On 16/08/2013, at 2:45 PM, Jared Hirst
>
> <jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au> wrote:
>
> +1 Dual ports / sessions with Vocus.
>
> Never had an issue. *touch wood*
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>]
> On Behalf
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> Of Sean K.
>
> Finn
>
> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 2:36 PM
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> To: 'Andrew Yager'; <AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net>
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> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Transit provider recommendations
>
> I know this sounds strange, but why not ask Vocus to deliver you
>
> diversity
>
> themselves?
>
> Possibly they can also provide private backhaul between the two
>
> points
>
> where they hand off to you, and, heck, maybe even protect it if
>
> you ask
>
> nicely enough.
>
> I use them for Transit as well as Intercap and other private
>
> local
>
> connectivity and haven't seen a blip in two years on Intercap or
>
> Transit.
>
> May as well get your carrier to do all the hard work in
>
> protecting
>
> connectivity to your pops - that's what you pay them for.
>
> Sean.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Of Andrew
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> Yager
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> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 10:51 AM
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> Subject: [AusNOG] Transit provider recommendations
>
> Hi All,
>
> Aware that this question is asked all the time.
>
> Looking for recommendations for a "diverse" path to Vocus for
>
> 500Mbps -
>
> 1Gbps (95th/burstable) with handoff in GS, Eqx and NextDC M1;
>
> preferably
>
> with the ability to deliver on a 10G port "in the future" should
>
> our needs
>
> require.
>
> Had been considering AAPT but had some interesting feedback
>
> around product
>
> support that is making me think twice. Would be interested in
>
> off-list
>
> thoughts of other reasonable options. :)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andrew
>
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