[AusNOG] Telstra Contact - NOC

[Sean K. Finn]

Hi Chris.

You could always advertise only your Adelaide IP blocks into Optus as /24's, for example, more specific routes, and your backup routes into AmCom as /23's or greater, and see if that works.
(This assumes that you're keeping /24 blocks geographically separated).

Worst case you could possible pre-pend the advertisement into Optus in Adelaide with AMCOM's AS number, not sure if this is legal, ethical, or will be stripped anywhere, so use at your own risk.

Then there's always BGP communities. You can mess around with NTT's communities for *your* routes, as long as AMCOM doesn't strip them on the way through.

AMCOM looks like it connects to these peers:
http://as.robtex.com/as9398.html#peers

and peers with NTT on AS2914

AND, since AMCOM is an NTT customer, check out NTT's bgp communities:
http://www.us.ntt.net/support/policy/routing.cfm

You may be able to tag NTT to not advertise a specific /24 to Telstra, i.e. tagging that /24 or whatever with 65500:1221 for Telstra Domestic or  65500:1221 for Telstra-Global


"ustomers wanting to alter their route announcements to selected peers.
NTT Communications BGP customers may choose to prepend to selected tier 1 peers with the following communities, where nnn is the tier 1 peer's ASN:
Community	Description
65500:nnn	do not announce to tier 1 peer
65501:nnn	prepend o/b to tier 1 peer 1x
65502:nnn	prepend o/b to tier 1 peer 2x
65503:nnn	prepend o/b to tier 1 peer 3x
65510:nnn	announce to specific tier 1 peer
Note: 2914 is the ASN prepend in all cases. If used, 655xx:nnn overrides the 2914:42x communities.
"

Enjoy.


S.


-----Original Message-----
From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Chris Macko
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 10:11 AM
To: 'Tom Paseka'
Cc: 'Andrew Rutherford'; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Contact - NOC

Hi Tom,

Thanks for this. I don't feel that it's appropriate that Adelaide Telstra connections traverse all the way to Sydney and back again to our Adelaide Network.

Amcom indicate they cannot do anything on their end and that we should talk to Telstra. I don't quite agree on the outbound path, but my multiple attempts to have this rectified have not been able to finalise any item. It appears the similar action was occurring with Internode/Iinet (it appears Iinet have been merging the networks here in SA or it could potentially be a periodic item here) and traversing to Melbourne and back again. 

I'm just wanting this to improve and would like a contact at Telstra to discuss and see if they can make changes on the inbound path....?  

Kind Regards,

Chris Macko
Managing Director
Interhost Pacific Pty Ltd t/a Intervolve 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Paseka [mailto:tom at cloudflare.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013 9:28 AM
To: Chris Macko
Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Contact - NOC

Chris,

Do you have a traceroute? Its probably because Customer > Peer (Amcom is a customer, Optus is a peer).

Unless they're interconnected everywhere  - it won't always route most efficiently.

Cheers,
Tom

On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Chris Macko <cmacko at intervolve.com.au> wrote:
> Morning Guys,
>
> Some of our Adelaide networks are traversing Sydney to our Adelaide services (appears that Telstra is preferencing Amcom NTT Telstra connectivity in Sydney over local Optus peering). The same applies for Internode/IINET data services, with Telstra connections going out to Melbourne and back, in a similar fashion.
>
> Would really prefer that Adelaide Telstra connections and our Adelaide network to traverse locally and our discussions with upstream providers have been unable to rectify the problem at this stage. If you are able to provide a Telstra NOC contact email address so that we can touch base regarding this issue, it would be appreciated, thanks.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Chris Macko
> Managing Director
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