[AusNOG] iiNet buys Adam

Joshua D'Alton joshua at railgun.com.au
Tue Aug 6 11:46:01 EST 2013


When you start looking at NBN and the number of POI and the costs involved,
iiNet still has a ways to go yet to get up there with Telstra and Optus.
TPG should be fine as is M2 probably.


On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Peter Tiggerdine <ptiggerdine at gmail.com>wrote:

> I wasn't trolling.
>
> iiNet is becoming quiet large and buying up every ISP they can get
> their hands on. This is shrinking the market and reduce competition
> particularly in non Eastern Seabaord states where local ISP have tend
> to develop decent sized networks.
>
> There appears to be a very large gap forming between the top 5-6 ISP's
> and the rest is all I'm getting at.
>
> Had it being any other ISP's other than Telstra and iiNet then
> competition would still be there in SA.
>
> iiNet along with Optus, Telstra, AAPT, Verizon should all be treated the
> same.
>
> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Rod Veith <rod at rb.net.au> wrote:
> > It’s you.  J        Also suspect you’re trolling but just in case you
> > aren’t:
> >
> >
> >
> > It didn’t have to be iiNet, ACCC would not have stopped any other ISP, or
> > even Woolies, from buying Adam. ACCC just couldn’t get Telstra to agree
> not
> > to play favourites with Adam. It is important to note here that Telstra
> > refused to agree to certain controls being put in place. Do you/we really
> > want Telstra circumventing regulations to make them even bigger/more
> > powerful? Telstra didn’t seem to cry too much when the deal was knocked
> on
> > the head so I suspect they knew this deal was a long shot but one worth
> > attempting.
> >
> >
> >
> > Need to remember that capitalism only works when there is competition. US
> > policy makers understand the principle and enforce it (think AT&T,
> Microsoft
> > and for history buffs - sugar, tobacco and Standard Oil ), pity that Aus
> > policy makers seem to understand the concept but often fail with
> > enforcement. The only reason to allow a monopoly is when the national
> > interest is better served by keeping the monopoly operating (eg
> PMG-Telecom)
> > and even then you control it through regulation.
> >
> >
> >
> > Rod
> >
> >
> >
> > From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Peter
> > Tiggerdine
> > Sent: Tuesday, 6 August 2013 9:18 AM
> > To: Skeeve Stevens
> > Cc: <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] iiNet buys Adam
> >
> >
> >
> > Is it me of is ACCC playing favoritism with every other ISP other than
> > Telstra?
> >
> >
> >
> > iiNet have both the number one, two and three carrier in SA now outside
> of
> > Telstra and Optus
> >
> >
> >
> > Seems to me the politics is getting in the way of what is supposed to me
> an
> > impartial body.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Skeeve Stevens
> > <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > See:
> >
> http://www.crn.com.au/News/352427,iinet-to-spend-60m-on-adam-internet.aspx?eid=4&edate=20130806&utm_source=20130806&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=daily_newsletter
> >
> >
> >
> > ...Skeeve
> >
> >
> >
> > Skeeve Stevens - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
> >
> > skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com
> >
> > Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve
> >
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> >
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