[AusNOG] Noglist.com

Joshua D'Alton joshua at railgun.com.au
Fri Apr 26 17:41:59 EST 2013


"2.  Any communication is archived publicly and widely available to the
public"  so I'd say probably no?

The irony of that as well being that some member will pipe everything to
noglistarchive.com  so it would be publicly available regardless. And it
wouldn't be protected under the disclosure stuff because it is a mailing
list.. lol.


On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Martin Barry <marty at supine.com> wrote:

> Consider also letting people subscribe but not post if they don't meet the
> criteria. This allows those who get value from the discussions to listen in
> even if they won't have anything to contribute.
>
>
>
> On 26 April 2013 09:33, Don Gould <don at bowenvale.co.nz> wrote:
>
>>  Will your new list be publicly visible with only authorised posters or
>> simply completely closed?
>>
>> D
>>
>> On 26/04/2013 12:31 p.m., Bevan Slattery wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>>  As part of the previous discussion, I prepared the new list called
>> Noglist.com.  I was asked by Ausnog to hold off until they had a chance to
>> propose a solution to the existing issues.  Ausnog will be more proactively
>> moderating the Ausnog list.  A great step forward and good news.
>>
>>  However, feedback from many people off-list is that regardless of
>> increased moderation, they feel they are no longer prepared to contribute
>> to many of the discussions due to the open nature of the list.  Concerns
>> include:
>>
>>  1.  Any communication is available to any person or organisation that
>> subscribes including journalists and non-network people
>> 2.  Any communication is archived publicly and widely available to the
>> public
>> 3.  While initial discussions are generally on-topic, they typically
>> detoriate over a short period of time
>> 4.  Too much non-technical traffic is still being generated
>>
>>  It has been agreed that a new closed list will be created.
>>  Requirements are listed on the site and include:
>>
>>
>>    1.  network operator/administrator or engineer on a public network
>>    with an ASN.
>>    2. technical expert for network hardware or software systems
>>    3. Owner/operator of underlying critical network infrastructure (data
>>    centres, underground infrastructure eg. pit/pipe, submarine or
>>    inter-capital, energy and utility providers)
>>    4. Persons who are widely recognised as having considerable and
>>    valuable input to the community
>>
>>  It is the intention that the list will build over a reasonably short
>> period of time to include all major network and infrastructure
>> administrators and owners.
>>
>>  Now to be very clear – it is not intended to replace Ausnog and will
>> NOT replace Ausnog.  Ausnog is a very valuable resource to the community.
>>  However what has become apparent is that there is a substantial amount of
>> information that is not discussed or disclosed to the Ausnog list for fear
>> of possible sensitive information being republished.
>>
>>  Currently running a test environment here: https://noglist.com/test.php
>>
>>
>>  This is for information only and not intended for discussion.
>>
>>  Cheers
>>
>>  [b]
>>
>>
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