[AusNOG] From across the ditch

Matt Perkins matt at spectrum.com.au
Thu Apr 25 09:44:08 EST 2013


Telco's forced to break hard encryption. Sounds like somebody's seen to 
many movies.

Matt.

On 25/04/13 8:34 AM, Nick Gale wrote:
> I was generalizing not referring to anything specifically. If you take 
> skype as an example though it uses a 256bit key but it wouldn't be 
> considered insecure. Key length alone doesn't make the ciphertext 
> secure if your cipher is weak. If you used a 2048bit key with a 
> substitution cipher it would not take long to figure out.
>
> All I was pointing out was that people would start developing stronger 
> encryption methods for comms as companies are forced by governments to 
> work on breaking them, or, as governments themselves are known to be 
> able to crack those comms. Also as I said thats not different from 
> today's world but with laws like this going through or trying to be 
> passed in more countries it becomes more public and noticeable the 
> developments around comms encryption as people have an interest in 
> protecting their privacy.
>
>
> On 25 April 2013 06:23, Joshua D'Alton <joshua at railgun.com.au 
> <mailto:joshua at railgun.com.au>> wrote:
>
>     How is 2048bit key encyrption an arms race?
>
>     sent from android
>
>     On Apr 25, 2013 8:22 AM, "Nick Gale" <nickgale at gmail.com
>     <mailto:nickgale at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         All that would happen would be an arms race in
>         encryption/decryption technologies. As one is able to be
>         cracked so another will rise to replace it. Thats not really
>         different than today though but it may just be more apparent.
>
>         Also people are becoming more aware in general about their
>         security and protecting themselves better. Guberments are
>         starting to realize they are losing the ability to monitor
>         their citizens where necessary by law, (It doesn't help that
>         these same guberments abused the laws in the first place
>         though) and are starting to look at ways to get that control back.
>
>
>         On 25 April 2013 06:07, Dobbins, Roland <rdobbins at arbor.net
>         <mailto:rdobbins at arbor.net>> wrote:
>
>
>             On Apr 24, 2013, at 10:38 PM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
>
>             > requirements for operators to break encyrption
>
>             The encryption stuff as noted in the article (surely it's
>             wrong?) is both insane and impossible, for all practical
>             purposes - not to mention highly undesirable.
>
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