[AusNOG] Understanding lack of Aus connectivity to melbournefreeuniversity.org.
danny at spesh.com
Thu Apr 11 15:53:07 EST 2013
Apologies for the interruption -- I work for the Electronic Frontier
Foundation in the US, and usually lurk on the NANOG lists, asking the
occasional curious question about once a decade (Including "Where did Egypt
just go?" http://seclists.org/nanog/2011/Jan/1416 and "What happens when
Ripe.net doesn't pay their domain fees?"
My question to this even more distinguished audience is a little narrower:
We got a message from Melbourne Free University yesterday, whose site
hosted at 220.127.116.11 in the US was unavailable from Optus and Telstra
It looks to me that this specific IP is being patchily blackholed, mostly
from Australian addresses. My working assumption is that this is due to
The reason why Melbourne Free University got in touch with us, though, was
that when they contacted their own broadband service provider., Exetel, to
complain, their support eventually told them that upstream, AAPT, was
blocking it due to an Australian government request, and could say no more
about it. (The ticket is below.)
MFU is understandably a bit disturbed by such a statement from their ISP,
as are we. I *am* at this stage assuming miscommunication rather than
government action. I've reached out to AAPT and Exetel, and been banging on
BGP looking glasses and traceroutes all day, and not getting much response,
so I thought I'd broaden out the query and ask you all:
1) Is anyone here blackholing 18.104.22.168 or the /20 (though I've seen
people being able to reach .103 and .105 fine, but lose 104) for DDOS or
other operational reasons?
2) Hypothetically, can anyone suggest a Federal court order or government
process that would lead to such a blackhole for *non*-operational reasons?
Thank you for your attention -- I hope your curiousity is as piqued as mine
> Please note that we regret to inform that the IP address has been
> by Australian authority for undisclosed reasons.
> As per our supplier, due to the legal department our supplier is
> share any information regarding the blocking of the IP address.
> we are not able to provide the details regarding who has blocked the
> why because the supplier wont provide these info.
> Also note that our supplier is unable to have this IP unblocked.
> Level 1 - Network Support Engineer
> Exetel Pty Ltd
Here is the route taken by an Exetel consumer subscriber using the AAPT
network attempting to access the site.
> $ traceroute www.melbournefreeuniversity.org
> traceroute to melbournefreeuniversity.org (22.214.171.124), 64 hops
> byte packets
> 1 XXXXXXXXXXXXX (192.168.1.254) 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms
> 2 XXX.XXX.96.58.static.exetel.com.au (58.96.XXX.XXX) 18 ms 19
ms 18 ms
> 3 126.96.36.199.static.exetel.com.au (188.8.131.52) 19 ms 18 ms 19
> 4 pe-5017370-mburninte01.gw.aapt.com.au (184.108.40.206) 24 ms
> 20 ms
> 5 te3-3.mburndist01.aapt.net.au (220.127.116.11) [MPLS: Label 190
> 35 ms 35 ms 31 ms
> 6 te0-3-4-0.mburncore01.aapt.net.au (18.104.22.168) [MPLS: Label
> 7 bu2.sclarcore01.aapt.net.au (22.214.171.124) [MPLS: Label 16702
> More labels 49 ms More labels 32 ms More labels 31 ms
> 8 te2-2.sclardist01.aapt.net.au (126.96.36.199) [MPLS: Label 895
Exp 1] 31
> ms 32 ms 33 ms
> 9 * po6.sclarbrdr01.aapt.net.au (188.8.131.52) 30 ms *
> 10 * * *
> 11 * * *
Here is the route taken by a Telstra subscriber in Brisbane.
> $ traceroute to www.melbournefreeuniversity.org <
http://www.melbournefreeuniversity.org> (184.108.40.206), 30 hops max, 60
> 1 10.205.XX.XX (10.205.XX.XX) 8.936 ms 8.989 ms 8.977 ms
> 2 58.160.XX.XX (58.160.XX.XX) 9.349 ms 9.425 ms 9.482 ms
> 3 58.160.XX.XX (58.160.XX.XX) 9.705 ms 9.765 ms 9.753 ms
> 4 172.18.241.105 (172.18.241.105) 12.691 ms 12.817 ms 12.705 ms
> 5 bundle-ether10-woo10.brisbane.telstra.net (220.127.116.11)
15.426 ms 15.482 ms 14.644 ms
> 6 bundle-ether3.woo-core1.brisbane.telstra.net (18.104.22.168)
17.872 ms 12.953 ms 13.940 ms
> 7 bundle-ether11.chw-core2.sydney.telstra.net (22.214.171.124)
25.653 ms 26.135 ms 26.054 ms
> 8 bundle-ether1.pad-gw1.sydney.telstra.net (126.96.36.199) 27.017
ms 27.078 ms 27.072 ms
> 9 gigabitethernet0-2.pad-service2.sydney.telstra.net(188.8.131.52)
24.064 ms 24.129 ms 24.111 ms
> 10 * *
> 11 *
> 12 *
> 13 *
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