[AusNOG] Domestic Peering WAS: Vocus peering traffic missingfrom PIPE-IX?

[Chris Ricks]

>From some traces I ran a while ago, it looked like Internode had a BGP
adjacency with AS703 at one point....

On 12/11/12 16:17, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:
>
> On 11/11/2012, at 9:00 PM, Joshua D'Alton <joshua at railgun.com.au
> <mailto:joshua at railgun.com.au>> wrote:
>
>> AARNet is a special case though, just as the various other research
>> networks around the world get peering. Level3 for example doesn't
>> accept any new peering at all, yet there have been 4 since 2000, all
>> research networks.
>
> AARNet is not the only AU network outside the GoF with AS703 peering.
>
> MMC
>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Mark Prior <mrp at mrp.net
>> <mailto:mrp at mrp.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     AARNet met Verizon's requirements and got peering with them. I
>>     believed we also met AAPT's until AAPT changed their policy.
>>
>>     Mark.
>>
>>
>>     On 12/11/12 3:18 PM, Chris Ricks wrote:
>>
>>         With that said (AS703s requirements being met by AAPT, Optus and
>>         Telstra), is it likely that any other Australian carrier
>>         would be likely
>>         to meet them as well?
>>
>>
>>         On 12/11/12 15:32, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:
>>
>>             On 11/11/2012, at 8:29 PM, Chris Ricks
>>             <chris.ricks at securepay.com.au
>>             <mailto:chris.ricks at securepay.com.au>> wrote:
>>
>>                 There's been on list discussion stating that if the
>>                 other 3 members of
>>                 the GoF were evaluated using Verizon's published
>>                 policy, they wouldn't
>>                 get to keep the current arrangement - do you have an
>>                 opinion on that
>>                 either way?
>>
>>             I'd suggest that untrue.  All would meet AS703s requirements.
>>
>>             MMC
>>
>>                 On 12/11/12 15:13, Mark Prior wrote:
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>>                     On 12/11/12 12:25 PM, Chris Ricks wrote:
>>
>>                         Even if a merger of M2, iiNet and TPG
>>                         occurred, their traffic volume
>>                         would not put them in a position to discuss
>>                         settlement-free or SKA
>>                         peering with any of the GoF without
>>                         government intervention - that is
>>                         the crux of the issue here.
>>
>>                     I wouldn't put Verizon in the same box as the
>>                     other three. They have a
>>                     written peering policy and if you satisfy the
>>                     policy via a test
>>                     peering then you get to keep it.
>>
>>                     AAPT had a policy (I wrote the first version :-)
>>                     but it's a moving
>>                     target, at least it was when I last tried to use
>>                     it to get peering.
>>                     Telstra's peering policy is mission impossible
>>                     and Optus can't spell
>>                     peering.
>>
>>                     Mark.
>>
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