[AusNOG] NBN Battery backups

[Tom Wright]

Unless NBN Co. makes this an API driven feature where RSP's can somehow increase their ARPU (I.e, where they make money and NBN Co. do the work) I guarantee they won't be interested in supporting more crud.

I wholly believe NBN Co. should support everything in the last mile, up to and including anything NTU related. What's in it for the RSP otherwise?


-- Tom



On 11/10/2011, at 7:02 PM, "Solly, Matthew" <matt at mtt.me> wrote:

> I don't see how passing the responsibility to the RSPs would work unless the RSPs were allowed to charge for the UPS in a rental fashion. I think the UPS should be a "premium" service of sorts. Perhaps the RSPs could rent the UPS to users, with this cost subsidised to those where the phone line is a mission critical service (severely ill people, etc…). That would be one way to ensure the UPS was maintained. 
> 
> Matt
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> On 11/10/2011, at 6:49 PM, Tom Wright wrote:
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>> Err more interesting is how on earth is passing the responsibility onto the RSPs supposed to work? 
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>> What happens when there are two or more RSPs involved; who is responsible and who pays?
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>> Sounds like something that's currently half baked...
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>> 
>> -- Tom
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>> On 11/10/2011, at 5:57 PM, "Thomason, Simon" <Simon.Thomason at racq.com.au> wrote:
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>>> Was reading over this article today and did notice the comments about battery backups.
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>>> http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/companies/nbn-construction-several-months-behind-quigley/story-fn91v9q3-1226163841204
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>>> I have to be honest and have not been following in great detail what is happening with battery backups but that said I am wondering if they have taken into account the product life cycle when you introduce UPS.
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>>> I did find this which did not really indicate who will be responsible for the UPS? Does this mean Users or ISP?
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>>> 5.8 Battery Backup
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>>> In order to comply with the Government’s objectives, NBN Co will provide a Battery Backup solution so as to temporarily power Network Termination Units (NTUs) installed at the Fibre End-User’s premise in the event of a mains power failure.
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>>> Standard NTU installation will include installation of a Battery Backup Unit together with the initial battery. Going forward, battery replacement, charging, and maintenance will not be NBN Co’s responsibility. Any battery-related alarms will be passed to the RSPs for appropriate action.; http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/documents/nbn-co-3-year-gbe-corporate-plan-final-17-dec-10.pdf
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>>> I know this is a small thing in the grand scheme of things but will be interesting in 2 to 5 years times when all of these UPS are not maintained.
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>>> Simon Thomason
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