[AusNOG] Alternative to NBN?

Daniel Rose Daniel.Rose at cgu.com.au
Fri May 20 15:17:39 EST 2011


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There's no doubt that the benchmark of 100Mbps was screwing the pooch and this was a screwup.  This was made without any understanding of reality.

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From: Paul Brooks [mailto:pbrooks at layer10.com.au]
Sent: Friday, 20 May 2011 3:16 PM
To: Daniel Rose
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Alternative to NBN?

Most people in the industry know about this aspect of Malcolm's past, and its certainly mentioned in the media most of the times he is interviewed.
Personally that is what gives me hope that he will turn out to be more effective than others in the opposition communications role in 'keeping the goverenment honest'. If only he could get out of necessarily toeing the party line. It was to Turnbull's credit that he turned the opposition's argument from 'we don't need no 100 Megs, 20 is fine' to 'we might need 100Megs, it might be a good idea - but we have no independent evidence, analysis or business case to work out whether it is a good use of funds or not' - which is a much more reasonable argument in my book.

I still think Conroy screwed up when he made the performance benchmark 'must deliver at least 100Mbps downstream'. Ifhe'd made the requirement 'must deliver at least 20 Mbps upstream' he could have ahieved he same result, with much less scope for argument because the 'we're building an expensive new entrtainment network' angle would be much more easily dismissed.

P.


On 20/05/2011 2:54 PM, Daniel Rose wrote:
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I love the fact that people haven't put 2 and 2 together and realise that Malcolm Turnbull probably is still good friends with his former co-owner of OzEmail, Sean Howard

People see Turnbull as just some politician, not realising that he was at one stage the head of Australia's largest ISP (and in duty of full disclosure, also my employer in that role)

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On 19/05/2011 5:42 PM, Paul Gear wrote:
On 19/05/11 13:36, Damien Morris wrote:
I heard Malcolm Turnbull giving an answer on Lateline last night that was almost word-for-word the same response he gave me at the Vocus DC launch last year.

Where is all this mythical 100mb/s-to-the-home capacity that already exists in X% of the country..? :)


10mb/s-to-the-home would be an improvement, IMO.
10mb/s-to-the-home-and-doesn't-drop-out-every-time-it-rains would have me kissing the feet of whichever ISP could pull it off.

Make it 10 Mbps-symmetric and I'd agree wih you. Figuring out he technology mix to deliver 10 Mbps upstream is not trivial.

Turnbull et al claim that the DOCSIS3 deployments on Optus and Telstra HFC cables are already delivering 100 Mbps to the home, and so are delivering NBN-compatible services already past 2.something million homes. Again, they ignore the upstream - the 100Mbps HFC cable services are 100/2 - only 1.5 to 2 Mbps upstream, not 40 Mbps upstream that the NBN fibre 100/40 product delivers, and HFC is also not QoS-enabled or IPv6-enabled either - or available wholesale.

Paul.


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