[AusNOG] LNS Thoughts

Sean K. Finn sean.finn at ozservers.com.au
Wed Sep 8 12:42:41 EST 2010


The SRX's have gigabit sfp's but the SFP backplanes are limited to  
100mbs. Only the modular SRX650 has higher than 100mbps from my  
research.

When they say branch, they really mean Branch, and by that, 100mbps.

S



On 08/09/2010, at 11:29 AM, "Julien Goodwin" <ausnog at studio442.com.au>  
wrote:

> On 08/09/10 00:46, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
>> The Juniper MX80 is coming with LNS functionality, but isn’t here  
>> yet...
>> but looks nice for the bang for buck when it is an option.  Anyone  
>> else
>> have thoughts?
>
> So, the MX80. It *is* shipping, and has more throughput capacity then
> the vast majority of ISP's in this country need, even if it was the  
> only
> LNS in use.
>
> It's a real hardware router, and once you know the over-subscription
> points you're unlikely to ever max it out in raw routing (including
> VPN's and MPLS)
>
> Now for the downsides:
> * Several months back (prior to MX80 ship) I was told ETA for L2TP on
> "Trio" cards (which includes the whole MX80) was "early next year"
> * The control plane is an embedded PPC, not the standard Intel unit
> Juniper normally use. It's likely to be a little anaemic when  
> stressed,
> and would probably be the limiting factor in scaling.
> * Limited hardware redundancy inside the unit (see MX240 if you want  
> that)
> * Compared to the Cisco 7200 the interface cards are *EXPENSIVE*,
> although competitive in price to their Cisco equivalents
>
> As for pricing, once configured & licenced, I'd expect to see it for
> about $50k (Juniper's price lists regularly leak, ask your dealer for
> actual pricing)
>
> It would be neat if Juniper released a 1ru MX40 with 2x 10Gbe and one
> line card slot, but even if they did I doubt it would be any cheaper  
> in
> practice.
>
> As to the ERX line, for my point of view they are a line with no  
> future,
> but Juniper did confirm they have an actual feature roadmap and plans
> for support for many years. They have thousands of them out in *very*
> large customers who would stop buying much more expensive TX  
> Matrixes if
> burnt. I wouldn't buy them, but then I wouldn't buy an SSG (NetScreen,
> now replaced by JunOS running SRX) either.
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