[AusNOG] Highest ADSL2 internet connection speed

Chris Pollock Chris.Pollock at staff.pipenetworks.com
Thu Jul 29 10:49:03 EST 2010


Yes, exactly - not difficult to get full speed at sub1km, in fact it's
expected - every single successful order we've placed has been in
deployment class 9q.
 
My question for you MMC is, what's the greatest distance over which
you've achieved full speed per pair?
 
I've got a single pair on a HN402 sync'd at full speed travelling over
1.9km of copper.  It's interesting, the expected tailoff vs what we see
in the real world - the equipment seems to be capable of better speeds
than expected.
 
Cheers,

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	From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
[mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Matthew
Moyle-Croft
	Sent: Thursday, 29 July 2010 10:38 AM
	To: Marcus Emanuel @ HostCorp
	Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net; Paul Brooks
	Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Highest ADSL2 internet connection speed
	
	

	On 29/07/2010, at 9:14 AM, Marcus Emanuel @ HostCorp wrote:

		
		
		
		Anyone have any feedback on EFM Circuits and speeds
seen, pairs required to bond for 10Mbit over certain distances etc?


	SHDSL is different to ADSL in terms of the deployment classes
and how they're done.  

	The limitation about speed is much more related to the
deployment class than what's technically possible.   Our EFM equipment
quite happily maxes 5.7Mbps/pair when allowed to, but as distance
increases beyond 1km, what speed you're allowed to do drops.

	We have many pairs which are running happily at the 5.7Mbps/pair
maximum.  So delivering 10Mbps within 1km or so of the exchange is
fairly straightforward.

	MMC


		
		
		
		Cheers,
		Marcus.
		
		From: Paul Brooks [mailto:pbrooks-ausnog at layer10.com.au]

		Sent: Thursday, 29 July 2010 8:51 AM
		To: Marcus Emanuel
		Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
		Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Highest ADSL2 internet connection
speed
		On 28/07/2010 9:33 AM, Marcus Emanuel wrote:
		This is a STABLE connection using Internode ADLS2+
Extreme Annex M in York St Sydney
		This is on a Linksys/Cisco WAG 160n
		Status: Up
		Downstream Rate: 23855 Kbps
		Upstream Rate: 2691 Kbps
		
		It doesent beat your 24xxx down but 2.69 up is very
good.

		
		It would be VERY interesting to see what it synced at if
you turn Annex M mode off - Annex M 'steals' downstream channels and
makes them upstream channels, and it is the lower frequency channels,
which contribute most to the aggregate, that are most affected. Turning
off "annex M mode" is likely to push at least 1200 kbps or more back to
the downstream - and take the record!
		
		(if you do try this, please get the customer's
permission first!)
		
		Paul.

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