[AusNOG] Less than 10% of IPv4 Addresses Remain Unallocated
nanog at 85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc.nosense.org
Fri Jan 22 09:52:20 EST 2010
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 08:16:51 +1000
Noel Butler <noel.butler at ausics.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-01-21 at 12:28 +1100, James Spenceley wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > Yep, and I still stand by at _LEAST_ 2015 before we seriously get close to looking like running out of ipv4, maybe longer than that.
> > > There's around 400 million IP's stilll up for grabs.
> > and how many phones/computer will connect to the Indian and Chinese Internet in the next year ?
> How many connected last year...
> 4 x /8's issued to APNIC
> 4 x /8's issued to RIPE
> I'm well aware that the majority of vocal people on this list are
> supporters of ipv6,
> I just have an investigative mind, in other words,
> I do think some here are hyping things up for their own agenda, just
> like those did back in 90's.
It's not that. It's that some people are arrogant enought to believe
they can make more accurate IPv4 addressing exhaustion predictions with
no more than 5 seconds thought than the organisations (RIRs) who's job
is to manage the IPv4 address space, and who have many years data to
backup their predictions.
> I mean, talking about ripping off end users more money because they use
> ipv4 like Skeeve brought up, pleaaseeeee, , you try to force everyone
> onto ipv6, then there's going to plenty of spare ipv4 in APNIC's pool
> isn't there, so no problem for the ISP's that wont rip them off :)
> So apart from the noise makers on this list beating their chest about
> it, is anyone actually in serious talks with CPE vendors, how about
> retailers? find some cluey retailers and get them to push vendors as
> well, after all, that's where this needs to start.
> As someone else mentioned, the vast majority of end users don't care,
> they will not sit down and google it, they will not read white papers or
> RFC's about it, they have no desire to learn squat about it, all they
> want is for the Internet to work, existing customers and in next few
> years or so should easily be serviced by ipv4, it's the newbie from
> nearing then, the ones who go out and buy brand new CPE because its
> their first, or their existing one got blow to hell in a storm that
> needs to be targeted towards ipv6 capable CPE.
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