[AusNOG] [off-topic] Samsung Galaxy S

James Hodgkinson yaleman at ricetek.net
Thu Dec 30 20:17:38 EST 2010


I guess the question I have is... How reversible are things like the voodoo
fix et al? I don't mind my phone but it would be hard to turn down an
opportunity at getting more battery life and less application related lag...
On 30/12/2010 5:52 PM, "Joe Cozzupoli" <cozzupj at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Kai,
>
> Sorry to throw a spanner in the works but I would definitely go for the
> Nexus S
>
> http://www.google.com/phone/detail/nexus-s
>
> <http://www.google.com/phone/detail/nexus-s>If you look around online, you
> would be able to buy it outright for around $800AUD. The benefits of this
is
> that firmware upgrades go to you straight away, unlike HTC or
> other manufacturer Android phones where they have to brand the firmware
> upgrade before pushing it out.
>
> Also, I've been using the BlackBerry 9780 for a month now, its great. Runs
> OS6 so all nice and clean and bug free (so far).
>
> Just something else to consider.
>
> Cheers,
> Joe Cozzupoli.
>
> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Kai <vk6ksj at westnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ryan,
>>
>> I visited our only Telstra shop today, they're a franchise but they have
>> the HTC Desire, Nokia N8 and Samsung Galaxy S (2.1-update firmware) and
>> they said they've sold quite a few Samsung's with absolutely no problem,
>> so I showed the sales rep mine, he played with it for a bit,
>> acknowledged it is slow but that he hasn't seen any issues with the
>> one's they've sold.
>>
>> My phone's spec:
>> Model GT-I9000
>> Firmware 2.2
>> Baseband version: I9000DTJP3
>> Kernel: 2.6.32.9
>> Build: FROYO.DTJP5
>>
>> I note Telstra's phone has 2.1-update firmware, mine has 2.2 but runs
>> really badly.
>>
>> I don't want to root my phone, shouldn't need to when it's only three
>> months old, but I'll read some more about the voodoo fix.
>>
>> It's 3pm here, Sydney is three hours ahead of us, I'll ring Virgin
>> tomorrow, try to talk to the front line customer service staff and see
>> if I can get anywhere...
>>
>> Cheers
>> Kai
>>
>> On 30/12/10 14:43, Ryan Verner wrote:
>> > I'm extremely surprised by the opinions here; I own a I9000T (Telstra
>> branded model), and I love the phone - I'm a hopeless gadget geek who
seems
>> to regularly change phones. I don't intend on changing this handset for
>> some time.
>> >
>> > I had read about the issues people were having (terrible battery life,
>> GPS, reboots, lag), but I'm having none of them with the base 2.1 Telstra
>> ROM and voodoo fix; average battery life of 1-2 days (screen brightness
>> lowest, Exchange sync on, sync everything else turned off), GPS works
>> flawlessly, unit is always responsive.
>> >
>> > Battery life definitely could be better, but several HTC handsets I
>> tested were worse; seems to be the achilles heel of Android phones in
>> general currently.
>> >
>> > I've always pondered whether the Telstra firmware had a bunch of
>> manufacturer fixes the Optus branded ones didn't have; the build date on
the
>> shipped ROM is very recent ('2.1-update').
>> >
>> > Have you guys tried updating to 2.2? Maybe the issue is the shipping
>> firmware on the Optus handsets is total junk?
>> >
>> > R
>> >
>> > On 29/12/2010, at 20:33 , Kai wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hahaa, I'm on two year contract with the Galaxy S, I can't just throw
it
>> >> out, even though I'd love to. I read Andrew Fort's email, I found the
>> >> only spot in the house with good enough reception for data connection
(I
>> >> -think- it's the best spot..but the signal meter on this phone isn't
>> >> reliable anymore) and downloading ROM Manager, then I'll try step 2
and
>> >> fingers crossed that works 'cause it's gunna suck if I'm contracted to
>> >> this phone for another year and nine months :S
>> >>
>> >> My VirginMobile plan is good but this phone sux balls!
>> >>
>> >> So why'd I get one? well, my old Nokia was dying, needed a
replacement,
>> >> thought I'd give smartphones a go since it allows me to check weather
>> >> radar and stuff when I'm storm chasing, didn't want an iPhone, figured
>> >> I'd try the Samsung... and my old Nokia got stolen about a month after
I
>> >> got the Samsung.
>> >>
>> >> I've been using Nokia for the last eight years, first time I've used
>> >> Samsung hasn't left a good taste in my mouth!
>> >>
>> >> Cheers
>> >> Kai
>> >>
>> >> On 29/12/10 17:36, Darren Moss wrote:
>> >>> Yep, that looks just like mine.
>> >>>
>> >>> Go buy one and junk the other thing.
>> >>>
>> >>> Spend less time getting the thing to work and more time actually
using
>> it.
>> >>>
>> >>> Sounds like an ad.
>> >>>
>> >>> :)
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Darren Moss
>> >>> General Manager
>> >>> Australia and New Zealand
>> >>>
>> >>> em3 People and Technology, Managed Technology Experts.
>> >>>
>> >>> [p] 1300 131 083 extension 105 [f] 03 9017 2287
>> >>> [e] Darren.Moss at em3.com.au [w] www.em3.com.au
>> >>> PO Box 2333, Moorabbin VIC 3189
>> >>>
>> >>> New Zealand Airedale Street, Auckland City
>> >>> [p] 0800 888 285 [f] 09 887 0273
>> >>> PO Box 39573, Howick 2045
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:
>> ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Kai
>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, 29 December 2010 8:33 PM
>> >>> To: ausnog at ausnog.net
>> >>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] [off-topic] Samsung Galaxy S
>> >>>
>> >>> Hey Darren,
>> >>>
>> >>> Hahahaaa, for some reason I was expecting at least some reassuring
>> >>> feedback that there's a fix for all this. In all the browsing I've
done
>> >>> in the last month I can't find one reliable resolution for this
bloody
>> >>> phone.
>> >>>
>> >>> I don't wanna jailbreak/root it, that'll void the warranty, I'm
tempted
>> >>> to ask Virgin for an exchange with Nokia N8 or maybe HTC but the
>> >>> likelihood they'll actually exchange it is 0, none or bugger all.
>> >>>
>> >>> My Kies CD and Samsung data cable got stolen when my car got broken
>> into
>> >>> in Darwin, I've been trying to get the phone to behave itself on
>> >>> Bluetooth but either the machine doesn't want to talk to the phone or
>> >>> vice versa 'cause they can see each other, but they can't pair and
Kies
>> >>> tells me there are no Bluetooth devices available. FFS. Anyway, I'm
>> back
>> >>> in Broome and managed to find the USB cable that fits the Samsung,
>> >>> downloaded and installed Kies, backed up, upgraded firmware....but
yep,
>> >>> still crashes randomly, email doesn't know if it's coming or going,
and
>> >>> recently it says it can't send sms until a service is available even
>> >>> though I have four signal bars displaying. Keh?
>> >>>
>> >>> I think I've got a snowflakes chance in hell to get a replacement,
>> >>> Virgin customer service staff are 99% outsourced, and with no offence
>> to
>> >>> outsourced staff, if it's not in their script they don't know what to
>> do
>> >>> so I end up on hold for ages, like I did last weekend.
>> >>>
>> >>> I used my cousins Nokia N8 on the weekend, it looked ok but then
again
>> >>> anything would look ok compared to the Galaxy S. That said, I asked
on
>> >>> another mailing list and one user replied she's got hers last month
and
>> >>> she loves it, hehe, lucky her, mine sux!
>> >>>
>> >>> You like the BB Torch9800?
>> >>> http://us.blackberry.com/smartphones/blackberrytorch/
>> >>>
>> >>> It has a REAL keypad, I like it already :P what are the screen
>> dimensions?
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers
>> >>> Kai
>> >>>
>> >>> On 29/12/10 17:13, Darren Moss wrote:
>> >>>> Hey Kai,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If I had a dollar for every complaint we've received regarding the
>> Samsung Galaxy phone......
>> >>>>
>> >>>> We've had a few of these connected up on our Hosted Exchange
platform
>> and the customers have the same complaints:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 1. Poor battery life (number 1 problem - lucky to get 8 hours)
>> >>>> 2. Crashing and hanging
>> >>>> 3. Phone restarts at random
>> >>>> 4. Slow to pick up mail (even when in push mode)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> We fixed some with Voda via firmware upgrade, but the bottom line
was
>> they were just too painful.
>> >>>> There were too many "issues" and we couldn't get any real
information
>> from the telco or the vendor - similar to the old Nokia e75 handsets
which
>> were a disaster.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I thought that the handset could not possibly be that bad, so I
bought
>> one in November. It's sitting in a box at my Melbourne office after 1
week
>> of use. Even the staff didn't want it after hearing my complaining.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Now I have a BB Torch - the best handset I have ever owned without a
>> doubt (upgraded from BB Bold). It actually works, is fast and reliable.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> HTH.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Regards,
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Darren Moss
>> >>>> General Manager
>> >>>> Australia and New Zealand
>> >>>>
>> >>>> em3 People and Technology, Managed Technology Experts.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> [p] 1300 131 083 extension 105 [f] 03 9017 2287
>> >>>> [e] Darren.Moss at em3.com.au [w] www.em3.com.au
>> >>>> PO Box 2333, Moorabbin VIC 3189
>> >>>>
>> >>>> New Zealand Airedale Street, Auckland City
>> >>>> [p] 0800 888 285 [f] 09 887 0273
>> >>>> PO Box 39573, Howick 2045
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:
>> ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Kai
>> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, 29 December 2010 8:02 PM
>> >>>> To: ausnog at ausnog.net
>> >>>> Subject: [AusNOG] [off-topic] Samsung Galaxy S
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi guys and girls,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I hope you all had a great Christmas, I did! No prezzies, well no
>> >>>> conventional prezzies, I had time with my family/friends for
>> Christmas,
>> >>>> that's all I wanted! :)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sorry for the off-topic post, I wanted to ask everyone's valued
>> opinions
>> >>>> but feel free to reply off list with feedback.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Last Monday Broome's Optus repeater had issues and they had to get
>> parts
>> >>>> up from Perth (thanks to Chris Brown for the info), coincidentally
>> >>>> that's also when my Samsung decided to play silly buggers. I
initially
>> >>>> thought there may be issues with Optus Broome repeater here because
I
>> >>>> have fluctuating signal strength meter readings when standing under
>> the
>> >>>> Optus repeater here, but, overall, the most annoying thing is random
>> >>>> black screens and general slow performance.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Similar to the trouble this lady is having:
>> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB1b0UrX9e0
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Problems are intermittant enough to be annoying, ie I can't
reproduce
>> on
>> >>>> cue but my phone is less than three months old, I expect it to work.
I
>> >>>> backed up my contacts and did a firmware upgrade last week, still
>> >>>> doesn't work properley.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Anyone got similar issues?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> In case anyone does have similar issues my details are:
>> >>>> Model GT-I9000
>> >>>> Firmware 2.2
>> >>>> Baseband version: I9000DTJP3
>> >>>> Kernel: 2.6.32.9
>> >>>> Build: FROYO.DTJP5
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I am with VirginMobile, they use Optus mobile network.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Cheers
>> >>>> Kai
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