[AusNOG] New list charter from the AusNOG Board
terry at terrym.net
Fri Dec 17 15:47:31 EST 2010
In recent months several threads and their associated posts on
the AusNOG mailing list have resulted in some substantial discussion
amongst the AusNOG directors. These discussions have covered a
great number of topics and concerns from fostering active technical
debate through to limiting liability to AusNOG Pty Ltd. The outcome of
these discussions is the position that the Board needed to review
the existing AusNOG mailing list charter and clarify several areas
by issuing an updated charter.
The following List Charter is the amended version and will take
effect immediately. I urge all subscribers to review the new charter
and solidify, in you own minds, the expectations for AusNOG mailing
list etiquette. If you have any concerns about this charter or find
it objectionable feel free to email organisers at ausnog.net with your
For the AusNOG Board
The AusNOG mailing list has been established to provide a forum for
the exchange of technical information, the discussion of specific
implementation issues that require cooperation among internet
infrastructure related service providers (eg ISP/ASP/DC etc), the
discussion of technically focused operational issues, and the discussion
of technical issues relating to provision of internet services and the
various infrastructure related services in the telecommunications
This is NOT a forum for journalists to pick up leads, sales people to
sell things, end-users to pester their ISP, or bush lawyers to posit
their beliefs. Such behaviour will not be tolerated (see "Moderation"
When you post to the AusNOG mailing list any posting made should be
considered as solely being the views of the person making the posting
unless explicitly stated otherwise. You must also remember that any
posting made joins the public domain and is publicly archived, it is
unwise to include any information that would normally require an NDA
of any sort. The responsibility of this vests with the poster.
Note well that while technical matters relating to a commercial or
legal dispute MAY be in scope, details of a commercial or legal nature
are NOT permitted. This includes, but is not limited to, naming the
parties involved or including any details of the individuals employed
by or associated with the parties that are involved in the dispute.
As a list subscriber, you are required to respect the opinion of
others, even if you disagree with it. Healthy debate on a topic is
good, however personal attacks, name and shame attempts, or flaming
will not be tolerated.
It would be worthwhile for new list subscribers to become familiar
with the posters on the list before jumping in. Some of the list
members have spent many years in their field and are experts.
Their experience is a resource to be valued. Also remember that there
isn't always a direct correlation between the number of posts by a poster
and their expertise level.
Remember that when you post mail to the AusNOG mailing list, your post
will be received by hundreds, or even thousands, of your current and
potential peers, customers, suppliers and employers. Think before
posting - you don't want to look foolish in front of these people as
these are the very people you may need to ask for a job, or a favour,
We ask that list subscribers refrain from using derogatory language
towards individuals, companies, or products.
(a) Don't quote 50 lines of text and add one line to it. Quote what is
necessary to maintain context, but don't overdo it;
(b) Keep your signatures and disclaimers short. It's no fun seeing
signatures that are longer than your posts;
(c) Cross posting to multiple lists is discouraged;
(d) Please don't post in HTML format - it tends to annoy people who
read with text mode clients.
Please make sure that if you do use an auto-responder, it's configured
to not auto-respond to list e-mail. If it does, your list membership
will, in all probability, be suspended until it's fixed.
The AusNOG mailing list is reactively moderated - that is to say that
posts will be delivered to members immediately, but if the moderators
see the list being abused the abuser(s) will be asked to refrain from
their activities. If the abuser(s) does not cease, their list
subscription will be set to moderated mode, requiring all future posts
to be moderator approved. Further inappropriate activity may result in
the list member being removed. The AusNOG board reserve the right to
remove posts from the archive that do not follow this charter.
If the board believes a thread does not follow this charter, the board
may request that no more posts to the thread be sent. It is expected that
all subscribers follow this direction.
The moderation is an undertaking of the AusNOG Board of Directors.
Moderators may be appointed at the Board's choosing. AusNOG Pty Ltd and
its directors and associates accept no liability for the events,
ramifications, content, or intent of any posting made to the AusNOG
mailing list, nor accept liability for the moderation of a poster,
removal of a post from archives, removal of posting privileges, or the
removal of subscription rights.
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