[AusNOG] back of envelope sizing calculations

Skeeve Stevens skeeve at eintellego.net
Thu Mar 5 16:00:03 EST 2009


Actually, I have multiple 3845's running 3-4 full world tables and doing it without any sweat.  It has also been discussed on NANOG as a fine solution.

Not dissing Juniper, they seem like great hardware... but if you're a Cisco house... don't go introducing new platforms for amusement sake.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Campbell, Alex [mailto:Alex.Campbell at ogilvy.com.au]
> Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2009 3:35 PM
> To: Julien Goodwin; Skeeve Stevens
> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: RE: [AusNOG] back of envelope sizing calculations
>
> I would strongly second this recommendation.  We run J2320s, J4350s and
> J6350s and could not be happier with them, especially compared to the
> Cisco equivalents that are 3x - 4x the price.
>
> Even the cheapest model (J2320) can easily take several full tables and
> push a couple of hundred mbps... I'm not sure that any Cisco ISR would
> be that comfortable doing this in real-world conditions?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
> [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Julien Goodwin
> Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2009 2:51 PM
> To: Skeeve Stevens
> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] back of envelope sizing calculations
>
> Or for probably around the same as the 3800 you can look at the Juniper
> J-series whic I'm fond of these days, they handle multiple BGP feeds
> just fine.
>
> On 05/03/09 14:45, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
> > 7200-G1 - 512mb mtp (max throughput)
> > 7200-G2 - 1024mb mtp
> >
> > They have 3 * GE
> >
> > 2851 with an extra GE would be pushing it with 112mb mtp
> >
> > 3825 - need two extra gig ports - 179 mtp
> > 3845 - need two extra gig ports - 256 mtp
> >
> > A G1 which can either be in 7200 form or 7301 form.
> >
> > A G2 can be in 7204/6 form or 7201 form.
> >
> > HWIC-GE cards are more expensive that PA-GE's.
> >
> > My recommendation is a 7204VXR-NPE-G1 for cost, expandability (can go
> to 4 GE - maybe 5 if the bandwidth points aren't counted from slot 0
> NPE), or a G2 if you can afford it.
> >
> >
> > ...Skeeve
> >
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> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-
> >> bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Michael Bethune
> >> Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2009 1:17 PM
> >> To: ausnog at ausnog.net
> >> Subject: [AusNOG] back of envelope sizing calculations
> >>
> >> Hiya,
> >>
> >> Just doing some back of the envelope calculations and I was
> wondering
> >> if
> >> anyone had some ball park ideas?
> >>
> >> What kind of non-end of life Cisco router model could
> >>  handle domestic and international BGP tables + 3 GigE interfaces
> >> peaking at 100Mb/s or so (where the back traffic is a third of
> that).
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Michael.
> >>
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