[AusNOG] Conroy announcement on filtering

[Bevan Slattery]

It's illegal to host RC content in Australia.  So (domestic) peering
should be clean anyway.

[b]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net 
> [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Skeeve Stevens
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 December 2009 11:06 AM
> To: Nick Brown; ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Conroy announcement on filtering
> 
> It is interesting.  If the carriers have to do it... maybe 
> the downstreams don't, saving a lot of money.
> 
> But, then we need to consider peering... argghhhh *head in sand*
> 
> ...Skeeve
> 
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> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog- 
> > bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Nick Brown
> > Sent: Wednesday, 16 December 2009 11:56 AM
> > To: ausnog at ausnog.net
> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Conroy announcement on filtering
> > 
> > I've been trying to get an answer on this for months and 
> every time I 
> > ask heads go into the sand..
> > 
> > While I don't anticipate a backlash from RESDSL customers (VISPs or 
> > direct retail) or even BUSDSL customers (Where the service is 
> > specifically *not* being used as backhaul - don't forget their are 
> > alot of regional ISPs that have their Wireless, Dial or even DSL 
> > customers hanging of low end SHDSL services) I envision that if we 
> > were to tell transit customers that they can expect their 
> packets to 
> > be messed with, knives would be thrown - and I wouldn't 
> blame them for 
> > doing so.
> > 
> > Nick.
> > 
> > 
> > On 16/12/2009, at 11:36 AM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
> > 
> > > Question,
> > >
> > > Does anyone know the finer points of this proposal... 
> meaning... is 
> > > it aimed/directed at consumer/retail ISP's - which seems 
> to be their 
> > > justification - or to all ISP's who sell connectivity.. 
> and what is 
> > > the flow down effect?
> > >
> > > I.e.  Does Vocus have to do this? Does Telstra Direct?  
> If I have an 
> > > ISP we manage who has say both of those as transit providers, who 
> > > are (?) filtered, do we then have to worry as the 
> upstreams are?  It 
> > > would be kind of redundant?
> > >
> > > So, let's ponder that companies like Vocus, MCI, etc who 
> only sell 
> > > transit to businesses... or a business focused ISP - do 
> they have to 
> > > filter?
> > >
> > > I have some Micro sized ISP's - like PowerTel partners 
> and alike...
> > > do they have to filter?  They only have a few hundred connections 
> > > and only to businesses.
> > >
> > > Just pondering eintellego's response, but don't actually see 
> > > anything that differentiates what an ISP is.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director eintellego Pty Ltd - The 
> > > Networking Specialists skeeve at eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net
> > > Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954 Cell +61 
> (0)414 753 383 / 
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