[AusNOG] [Fwd: Re: Go Vocus (Sad pants for AAPT)]

Mark Smith marksmith at adam.com.au
Thu Apr 2 10:20:35 EST 2009


Nick Brown wrote:
> Following on from my earlier post, I have had a handful of offlist 
> replies which has prompted another reply.
> 
>  From the comments I received and doing some digging over the last hour, 
> Vocus and AAPT are actually much closer in "size", based on visible 
> downstream ASNs + prefixes, to AAPT then I first thought, and I am 
> honestly surprised at how rapidly they have grown.
> 

I've understood bilateral peering was usually driven by roughly equal 
exchanged traffic rates, not so much purely reachable IP addresses or AS 
interconnectedness. Or, more broadly, an equal exchange of value between 
each of the peers (financial, reachability etc.)

So if AAPT are refusing to peer with Vocus, it would seem that AAPT 
don't think they'd be receiving approximately equal value for what 
they'd be providing.


> I am, hereby proposing that there be a hat eating session at the 
> conference this year :-)
> 

A hat could be a bit dry, I'd recommend some chocolate sauce and may be 
a glass of water as a chaser :-)


Regards,
Mark.

> Cheers,
> Nick.
> 
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> 
> This is what I couldn't really fathom myself, and the Commsday article 
> doesn't make it overly clear - but is the dispute in the sense Vocus are 
> wanting to peer with AAPT, or are Vocus trying to peer with someone else 
> within an AAPT facility...
> 
> Because with all due respect to the Vocus guys, if it is Vocus trying to 
> peer with AAPT, and its successful, I will eat my hat.
> 
> Nick.
> 
> 
> Mark Smith wrote:
>>> That'd be impressive growth in the time you've been around if you're 
>>> going to be sending roughly as much traffic to AAPT as they're sending 
>>> to you.
>>>     
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