[AusNOG] IPv4 Exhaustion, APNIC EC, and James is a nice bloke ; -)

Jason Sinclair Jason.Sinclair at staff.pipenetworks.com
Mon Jul 21 08:12:24 EST 2008

But the bigger question or perhaps issue is one of attitude (ie
consumerism). I am not confident the answer is solely releasing a truck
load of addresses - exponential use will just increase and while all the
estimates of use of IPv6 suggest we will all be in networking heaven
when it does run out, there is a part of me that reckons we will be
having a similar debate in say 20 years........ How many v4 addressable
devices do you run at home now? But wait until address availability is
not an issue in the future - I can think of about 100 devices at home
that "need" to be networked for various reasons, and all of them I would
like to manage remotely (if I only wasn't so scared!). What was that
about history never repeating???


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Behalf Of Mark Newton
Sent: Sunday, 20 July 2008 12:53 AM
To: Bevan Slattery
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] IPv4 Exhaustion, APNIC EC, and James is a nice
bloke ;-)

On 19/07/2008, at 11:49 PM, Bevan Slattery wrote:

> As for IPv4 exhaustion - can someone please get some sanity and pull
> back some of the address space given back in the days when Yoda was
> playing soccer with Jesus for Jerusalem?

The RIR's looked at doing this a couple of years ago and concluded that
the amount of time and effort it'd take would outweigh the time and  
required to migrate to v6.

It'd take a few years to go through the motions, and at the end of it
we'd only have freed up enough /8's to supply a year or two of further
IPv4 growth before we had the same problem all over again and no low-
hanging fruit left.  Might as well just get on with the migration.
It's going to be just as much of a pain whether we do it in 2009 or
2011, better to just bite the bullet and get it over with.

  - mark

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